June 03, 2005
This Isn't an Argument
Laura Vecsey echoes a comment to this post. Vecsey writes:
But something else was lost yesterday at Fenway. Something maybe smaller, or maybe bigger, depending on what happens down the line between Mazzilli and his team.
Once again, Mazzilli decided against arguing a call, just like the time he didn't bother to argue a suspect balk called against Kline last month.
Once again, it left open the door for some players to wonder if it's really all about Mazzilli's "low-key" style that he hasn't argued or been thrown out of a game yet, or whether he's got the back of only a handful of star players.
Once again, a scenario presents itself that leaves some players to wonder: Are the Orioles doing what they're doing, winning, despite their manager?
Maybe Lee needs to attend classes here.
I can understand players wanting their manager to back them up. However, arguing is pretty useless in general. It's very seldom that a call gets overturned. It's possible that Mazzilli is saving it for when it's really needed so it's most effective. When Lee does come out to argue a call, the ump will think, "Lee doesn't argue, I really must have blown it." That's just my guess.
Ben in the comments makes a more important point:
Two games in this series, Sal Fasano came to the plate in a crucial spot in late innings with runners in scoring position. There's a reason Sal Fasano is a 32-year-old, fat journeyman catcher -- he's no good. Both times, Fasano killed the rally. Does Mazzilli even consider pinch hitting for him? An injured Brian Roberts, Jeff Fiorentino or Geronimo Gil are much more enticing options at that point. The O's have left a ton of guys on base this season, and Mazzilli's lack of tactics sure don't help.
In the top of the eighth yesterday, Foulke came in and gave up a single to Chris Gomez. I turned to my nephew and said, "That's okay, ow Foulke gets to pitch to the worst hitter on the team." Another reason to carry fewer pitchers; that way you can have someone pinch hit for players like Sal.
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While I agree that Mazzilli needs to be thrown out of a game soon, the call in the seventh inning that went against the O's wasn't the one that lost us the game, and it didn't even cost the O's the lead. No harm, no foul.
Fasano sucks, but he's no worse than Gil, IMO.
Joe Torre would have argued. Joe always backs up his players, even when they are obviously in the wrong.
Mazzilli's lack of arguing doesn't really bother me. His lack of managerial skill, however, does.
For instance, why, when the Orioles are doing great and scoring tons of runs, do you split up the Roberts, Mora, Tejada trio at the top of lineup (putting sub .250 hitters in the 2 hole)?
Makes no sense. In my opinion, if anything causes the Orioles to blow their chances at the postseason this year, it won't be talent, it will be the manager.
Or even better why take a scalding hot Palmeiro out of the lineup like he did this weekend against Detroit? And why let Steve Reed give up five runs and blow the game Sunday? Or why take Penn out after 5 1/3 when he struck out the only batter he faced in the sixth? Dumb, dumb, dumb.
As far as why Gil didn't hit for Fasano-- I don't know what the exact situations were but probably the answer can be found in six figures:
Fasano Gil
OBP 05 .739 .548
OBP vs rhp .810 .518
OBP May .876 .403
Now consider this-- if you pinch hit for Fasano with anyone else, Gil is still going to come in defensively. So you've used two players for one at bat. Now what if he breaks his thumb on the first pitch? Gibbons used to catch didn't he? But he DH'd for 3 of the 4 games-- if he goes behind the plate, the pitchers will have to hit. So it has to be Surhoff, who hasn't caught an inning in HOW LONG and is 40 years old? So if Surhoff is in the game he can't be pinch hit for AND WHOEVER'S LEFT ON THE BENCH WHO CAN PLAY OUTFIELD CAN"T BE USED. If Surhoff's not in the game he can't be used to hit for someone. So you are basically using Gil as well as a pinch hitter and denying yourself the use of either your best remaining bat on the bench or a potential pinch runner of value (assuming its Nivar or Calzado -- I havn't been paying attention to how they're patching up the outfield these days...)
I'd let Fasano hit for himself every time.
As for the scalding hot Palmiero, he's 40 years old and had played 15 straight games; you gotta rest him sometime...
Penn was pitching on short rest-- they took him out at 81 pitches. You're going to see a lot more of this-- its getting pretty standard.
I don't know why Maz split up the top of the lineup, but one thing I learned quickly managing softball teams is: you build the top of your lineup to score runs- you build the bottom of your lineup to avoid double plays. The Orioles have some missing teeth--Matos, Bigbie and Lopez-- at the moment; perhaps he was trying to get someone's bat started and wanting to avoid a specific combination lower down? Killing two birds with one experiment?
Steve Reed threw 14 strikes out of 20 pitches in giving up 4 runs-- the other was charged to his predecessor. Perhaps he didn't think Kline was going to do better against that part of the order? He certainly has expert advice in Ray Miller-- bum Mazilli all you want, but if you want a better pitching coach, youre going to have to find a way to pry either Mazzone or Hershiser loose from their present jobs...
Folks, they're in first place. They split a series with the defending World Champions. They're playing better than almost anyone thought they would-- give the guy another 40 games before you charge the jury, huh?
I just heard this while watching the Reds/Orioles game. Why did Lee Mazilli pinch hit Brian Roberts when he had a 20 game hitting streak on the line? He didn't have anyone that could step in to hit one time? Roberts has now hit in his last 2, would've still had the streak going if he didn't have that one AB. And as hot as Roberts is, who knows what would've happened?