November 26, 2006
Probabilistic Model of Range, Second Basemen, 2006
As with the left fielders, I'll present both the velocity model and the velocity/distance model. We'll start with the old velocity model:
Probabilistic Model of Range, Second Basemen. Model is Based on 2006 Data Only. Minimum 1000 Balls in Play. Uses Velocity for Fly Balls.
Player | In Play | Actual Outs | Predicted Outs | DER | Predicted DER | Difference |
Tony Graffanino | 1702 | 186 | 161.05 | 0.109 | 0.095 | 0.01466 |
Neifi Perez | 1374 | 166 | 152.40 | 0.121 | 0.111 | 0.00990 |
Jamey Carroll | 2806 | 396 | 372.04 | 0.141 | 0.133 | 0.00854 |
Joe S Inglett | 1349 | 157 | 145.78 | 0.116 | 0.108 | 0.00832 |
Orlando Hudson | 4128 | 552 | 522.65 | 0.134 | 0.127 | 0.00711 |
Aaron W Hill | 2777 | 358 | 340.66 | 0.129 | 0.123 | 0.00625 |
Jose Valentin | 2367 | 316 | 301.96 | 0.134 | 0.128 | 0.00593 |
Mark Ellis | 3407 | 390 | 370.15 | 0.114 | 0.109 | 0.00583 |
Jose C Lopez | 4045 | 473 | 451.94 | 0.117 | 0.112 | 0.00521 |
Placido Polanco | 2838 | 373 | 359.11 | 0.131 | 0.127 | 0.00489 |
Luis Castillo | 3663 | 416 | 401.24 | 0.114 | 0.110 | 0.00403 |
Chase Utley | 4151 | 476 | 460.10 | 0.115 | 0.111 | 0.00383 |
Robinson Cano | 3160 | 385 | 372.91 | 0.122 | 0.118 | 0.00383 |
Chris A Burke | 1012 | 128 | 124.23 | 0.126 | 0.123 | 0.00373 |
Dan C Uggla | 3935 | 485 | 473.20 | 0.123 | 0.120 | 0.00300 |
Tadahito Iguchi | 3782 | 428 | 418.52 | 0.113 | 0.111 | 0.00251 |
Josh L Barfield | 3755 | 442 | 435.89 | 0.118 | 0.116 | 0.00163 |
Jose Castillo | 3832 | 387 | 381.40 | 0.101 | 0.100 | 0.00146 |
Brandon Phillips | 3791 | 404 | 399.50 | 0.107 | 0.105 | 0.00119 |
Marcus Giles | 3589 | 412 | 413.47 | 0.115 | 0.115 | -0.00041 |
Mark Grudzielanek | 3595 | 367 | 370.61 | 0.102 | 0.103 | -0.00100 |
Mark Loretta | 3578 | 401 | 410.00 | 0.112 | 0.115 | -0.00251 |
Brian Roberts | 3634 | 398 | 407.17 | 0.110 | 0.112 | -0.00252 |
Ray Durham | 3525 | 393 | 402.11 | 0.111 | 0.114 | -0.00258 |
Adam Kennedy | 3386 | 406 | 415.75 | 0.120 | 0.123 | -0.00288 |
Ian M Kinsler | 3288 | 424 | 433.63 | 0.129 | 0.132 | -0.00293 |
Aaron Miles | 2016 | 238 | 245.21 | 0.118 | 0.122 | -0.00358 |
Ronnie Belliard | 3860 | 448 | 464.43 | 0.116 | 0.120 | -0.00426 |
Jeff Kent | 2811 | 325 | 338.95 | 0.116 | 0.121 | -0.00496 |
Craig Biggio | 3162 | 360 | 376.73 | 0.114 | 0.119 | -0.00529 |
Hector Luna | 1487 | 151 | 159.76 | 0.102 | 0.107 | -0.00589 |
Rickie Weeks | 2402 | 263 | 278.24 | 0.109 | 0.116 | -0.00634 |
Kaz Matsui | 1403 | 169 | 178.92 | 0.120 | 0.128 | -0.00707 |
Jose Vidro | 2905 | 305 | 327.93 | 0.105 | 0.113 | -0.00789 |
Jorge L Cantu | 2859 | 283 | 311.98 | 0.099 | 0.109 | -0.01014 |
Ty Wigginton | 1075 | 105 | 117.30 | 0.098 | 0.109 | -0.01144 |
Todd Walker | 1279 | 128 | 147.72 | 0.100 | 0.115 | -0.01542 |
And here's the mixed velocity/distance model:
Probabilistic Model of Range, Second Basemen. Model is Based on 2006 Data Only. Minimum 1000 Balls in Play. Uses Distance for Fly Balls.
Player | In Play | Actual Outs | Predicted Outs | DER | Predicted DER | Difference |
Tony Graffanino | 1702 | 186 | 165.06 | 0.109 | 0.097 | 0.01230 |
Jamey Carroll | 2806 | 396 | 370.20 | 0.141 | 0.132 | 0.00920 |
Aaron W Hill | 2777 | 358 | 334.22 | 0.129 | 0.120 | 0.00856 |
Orlando Hudson | 4128 | 552 | 520.38 | 0.134 | 0.126 | 0.00766 |
Jose Valentin | 2367 | 316 | 301.32 | 0.134 | 0.127 | 0.00620 |
Mark Grudzielanek | 3595 | 367 | 344.87 | 0.102 | 0.096 | 0.00616 |
Chase Utley | 4151 | 476 | 451.34 | 0.115 | 0.109 | 0.00594 |
Joe S Inglett | 1349 | 157 | 151.57 | 0.116 | 0.112 | 0.00403 |
Mark Ellis | 3407 | 390 | 376.45 | 0.114 | 0.110 | 0.00398 |
Neifi Perez | 1374 | 166 | 160.56 | 0.121 | 0.117 | 0.00396 |
Jose C Lopez | 4045 | 473 | 457.26 | 0.117 | 0.113 | 0.00389 |
Robinson Cano | 3160 | 385 | 373.02 | 0.122 | 0.118 | 0.00379 |
Luis Castillo | 3663 | 416 | 403.31 | 0.114 | 0.110 | 0.00346 |
Placido Polanco | 2838 | 373 | 363.35 | 0.131 | 0.128 | 0.00340 |
Chris A Burke | 1012 | 128 | 125.30 | 0.126 | 0.124 | 0.00267 |
Brandon Phillips | 3791 | 404 | 397.11 | 0.107 | 0.105 | 0.00182 |
Jose Castillo | 3832 | 387 | 384.20 | 0.101 | 0.100 | 0.00073 |
Tadahito Iguchi | 3782 | 428 | 425.35 | 0.113 | 0.112 | 0.00070 |
Dan C Uggla | 3935 | 485 | 482.86 | 0.123 | 0.123 | 0.00054 |
Brian Roberts | 3634 | 398 | 396.92 | 0.110 | 0.109 | 0.00030 |
Josh L Barfield | 3755 | 442 | 441.53 | 0.118 | 0.118 | 0.00013 |
Ian M Kinsler | 3288 | 424 | 426.80 | 0.129 | 0.130 | -0.00085 |
Adam Kennedy | 3386 | 406 | 409.98 | 0.120 | 0.121 | -0.00118 |
Marcus Giles | 3589 | 412 | 417.71 | 0.115 | 0.116 | -0.00159 |
Ray Durham | 3525 | 393 | 401.46 | 0.111 | 0.114 | -0.00240 |
Craig Biggio | 3162 | 360 | 369.43 | 0.114 | 0.117 | -0.00298 |
Jeff Kent | 2811 | 325 | 335.51 | 0.116 | 0.119 | -0.00374 |
Mark Loretta | 3578 | 401 | 415.16 | 0.112 | 0.116 | -0.00396 |
Aaron Miles | 2016 | 238 | 246.01 | 0.118 | 0.122 | -0.00397 |
Hector Luna | 1487 | 151 | 157.64 | 0.102 | 0.106 | -0.00447 |
Rickie Weeks | 2402 | 263 | 275.27 | 0.109 | 0.115 | -0.00511 |
Ronnie Belliard | 3860 | 448 | 472.37 | 0.116 | 0.122 | -0.00631 |
Kaz Matsui | 1403 | 169 | 179.09 | 0.120 | 0.128 | -0.00719 |
Jose Vidro | 2905 | 305 | 327.48 | 0.105 | 0.113 | -0.00774 |
Jorge L Cantu | 2859 | 283 | 307.27 | 0.099 | 0.107 | -0.00849 |
Ty Wigginton | 1075 | 105 | 116.62 | 0.098 | 0.108 | -0.01081 |
Todd Walker | 1279 | 128 | 144.79 | 0.100 | 0.113 | -0.01313 |
I'm starting to like the mixed model more. Grudzielanek does better in the second chart. He won the gold glove and did very well in John Dewan's +/- system. Both system agree on the bottom five. Among the second basemen who play every day, Orlando Hudson comes out on top in both systems. I believe he came out near the top last year as well.
As a Jays fan it's friggin' GREAT to see Aaron Hill just a notch behind Hudson. Shame they're going to move him to SS.
i'm not surprised to see mark loretta so low. he seemed to have pretty poor range, despite his good hands. so, i'm keeping score at home, and i noticed that the red sox came out as just slightly above neutral in groundball defense, and so far, without 3rd base, they're at about neutral. so does that mean that lowell is going to be about average? every other statistic i've seen has shown that he had a phenomenal season in the field. i've seen figures like +15 to 20 runs. i guess this is kind of jumping the gun.
Dave, I like the site. However, I am consistently confused what this information means. Many times when I come to your site, I skip over all this hard work because it makes absolutely no sense to me. Could you post an explanation of these models.
Sorry Pinto but your system is WHACKED this year. Perhaps it is the data you are receiving, I don't know. But you have some players WAYYY too high for their production last year.
Just an opinion
Some D'Backs fans were apparently less than enamoured of Hudson's defence this year, and Chris Dial's system has him as below league average this year. Could you please let me know what the results were for groundballs only. Some have suggested that Hudson makes a significant part of his numbers by pop-fly hogging.
I think the presentation of this data would be greatly improved by dropping the last 3 columns -- DER, predicted DER, and difference -- and replacing them with two columns that are more helpful at the player level:
1) Out difference (actual minus predicted outs)
2) Out percentage (actual outs divided by predicted outs)
DER is great at the team level, both overall and separately for GBs and airballs. We know what it means. But it has no intuitive meaning at the player level: no one "expects" Hudson to make outs on 12.6% of all balls in play when he's in the field. However, saying that a player makes 110% or 92% as many outs as the average player at his position has clear meaning. So does saying "he made an extra 8 outs," or "he cost his team 12 outs."
I completely agree with Guy, and said as much on my blog.
re: chase utley
nice to see a guy with a great glove and a great bat.
if only the phils had held onto scott rolen, what an infield they'd have of Howard, Utley, Rollins & Rolen. It's be better than Connie Mack's of the 1910s.
--art kyriazis, philly