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Baseball Musings
November 22, 2007
Lots of Angels in the Outfield

In a stunning development, Torii Hunter reached a deal with the Anaheim Angels last night (hat tip, Basball Digest Daily).

The Angels pulled off their second stunning -- and somewhat perplexing -- move of the week late Wednesday night, signing free-agent center fielder Torii Hunter to a five-year, $90-million contract, the richest deal in franchise history.

Three teams -- the Texas Rangers, Chicago White Sox and Kansas City Royals -- extended five-year offers to the former Minnesota Twins star, and the Angels seemed set in center field with Gary Matthews Jr., a superb defender who is entering the second year of a five-year, $50-million contract.

But Tony Reagins, the Angels rookie general manager, began speaking with agent Larry Reynolds "a few days ago," negotiations heated up with microwave-like quickness, and a deal for the seven-time Gold Glove Award winner, which will be finalized pending a physical, came together "within the last 24 hours," Reynolds said.

"They shocked me," Hunter said during a hastily arranged conference call late Wednesday night. "I wanted to be with these guys. I thought maybe they didn't need a center fielder like me. They shocked the world. I love these guys . . . I want to say thank you guys for choosing me. I'm honored.

The Angels say they'll use Matthews in both corner spots as Guerrero and Anderson rotate throught he outfield and DH spot. Both suffered injuries in 2007, so maybe the Angels are trying to save these two from more of the same. The odd men out are Juan Rivera and Reggie Willits. So do Willits and a pitcher go to the Marlins for Cabrera? Or to the Orioles for Tejada?

What I don't like about the deal is the age of the Angels outfield. The seasonal age for the outfielders in 2008:

  • Anderson: 36
  • Matthews: 33
  • Guerrero: 32
  • Hunter: 32

Guerrero is in the last year of his contract, with a team option for 2009. I'm guessing they extend Vlad, giving the team a very old outfield as they end the aughties. If they land Cabrera, it's probably worth it. If they land Tejada, they're just another old team trying to win now.

It is nice to see that some team was willing to bid too much for a player. After Rodriguez and Lowell attracted little attention, Hunter ends up the one overpaid. Andruw Jones and Aaron Rowand must be very happy this morning.

Update: 6-4-2 Isn't happy with the deal.

Despite his type A ranking by Elias, Hunter's value to the team is rather dubious thanks to his age, multiplied by having a career year in a contract year. PECOTA projected him as a 45 VORP player, and he came in a bit below that at 39.2. Now, four wins is nothing to sneeze at, but he marks the kind of player the Angels really shouldn't be chasing; they need a Hall of Fame caliber bat, and Hunter simply isn't that. As a fix for the outfield, it reaches meh levels, with the usual caveats that Hunter's comps were either out of baseball or ineffective by the time this deal will be over, when Hunter is 36.

Chronicle of the Lads list the deal under WTF.

Aaron Gleeman looks at the bright side for the Twins:

Hunter remaining in the AL isn't ideal, but signing with the Angels beats joining the White Sox or even the Royals. The good news is that because the Angels finished with a winning record in 2007, the Twins will receive the 27th overall pick June's draft as compensation for losing Hunter. Had he signed with the White Sox, Rangers, Dodgers, Nationals, Royals, Astros, Reds, or any other sub-.500 team, the Twins would have received a supplemental first rounder instead.

Posted by David Pinto at 07:42 AM | Free Agents | TrackBack (0)
Comments

great deal, great job Reagins

Trade Proposal:
Marlins get: Matthews Jr., Kendrick, Santana, a lesser prospect
Angels get: Cabrera, Uggla

Posted by: Christopher at November 22, 2007 03:05 PM

What was Hunter's PMR in '06 and '05? I was surprised to see his ratio was slightly under 100 this season.

Posted by: Jared at November 22, 2007 04:03 PM

Too bad that the Marlins won't take Matthews unless the Angels essentially pickup his entire contract. I assume that Rivera and GA can't be moved also because of their contracts. The odd thing about this signing (and the Matthews deal) is that instead of those two guys, they could have just signed A-Rod.

Posted by: Tom at November 22, 2007 09:33 PM

great deal, great job Reagins

Trade Proposal:
Marlins get: Matthews Jr., Kendrick, Santana, a lesser prospect
Angels get: Cabrera, Uggla

Posted by: Christopher at November 22, 2007 11:14 PM

great deal, great job Reagins

Trade Proposal:
Marlins get: Matthews Jr., Kendrick, Santana, a lesser prospect
Angels get: Cabrera, Uggla

Posted by: Christopher at November 22, 2007 11:15 PM

The anticipation of moving Reggie Willits, the uncertainty of Mathews' status post-HGH discovery, and the need to platoon Anderson and Guerrero at DH have to have played parts in this deal. The price may be steep, but it is clear that the Angels are posturing for a trade that would bring in Miguel Cabrera. Future trades could include Willits, Saunders, Adenhart, Aybar and unfortunately for halos fans-Howie Kendrick. There is little chance that Mathews goes anywhere.

Posted by: Galungas at November 23, 2007 12:10 AM

So do Willits and a pitcher go to the Marlins for Cabrera?

Wha?!?!?! Willits and Lackey? Willits and KRod?Willlits and Escobar - wouldn't do it

Now LAA has 2 CF's and a rookie SS - kind of hard to figure out wtf they are doing. I like Hunter as a player but he's another guy who doesn't take pitches and strikes out a lot.


Trade Proposal:
Marlins get: Matthews Jr., Kendrick, Santana, a lesser prospect
Angels get: Cabrera, Uggla

Marlins response - Don't call here anymore

Posted by: Bandit at November 23, 2007 07:36 AM

Trade Proposal:
Marlins get: Matthews Jr., Kendrick, Santana, a lesser prospect
Angels get: Cabrera, Uggla

That's gotta be the dumbest trade proposal on the planet.

Posted by: Joel at November 23, 2007 10:28 AM

GMJ has a full no-trade clause through 2009 :(

Posted by: Jeremy at November 24, 2007 08:38 PM
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