March 2, 2012

Hockey Analytics

I’m trying something different, going to the hockey analytics talk. Tony A Monte, Peter Chiarelli, Mike Millbury, Michael Schuckers, and Brian Burke make up the panel. It’s a nice mix of players and management.  Kathryn Tappen moderates.

Update: The panel:d

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Update: Chiarelli says weight is very important in drafing players, more important than height.

Update: Chiarelli is also trying to use a probabilistic +/-, by looking at location of shots.

Update: Brian Burke is not sold on advanced metrics. Notes +/- is bad for players on ‘horseshit’ teams. I don’t think he understands how to use the stat. Says Moneyball is boring baseball. I wish they had skeptics like this on the baseball panel. Much more fun.

Update: Millbury notes that hits are tracked, but not quality of hits.

Update: Monte says even in youth hockey, weight makes a huge difference.

Update: There are a lot of baseball references. It seems the NHL is feeling pressure from the baseball analytics advances.

Update: All say how tough it is to draft an 18 year old. Schuckers, the academic, points out there league equivalences. The GMS say they have little value. The NHL needs a Theo Epstein. The front office is the inefficiency to be exploited in the NHL.

Update: Schuckers says you need to win 100 faceoffs to score one goal on average.

Update: Burke brings up intangibles! Maybe they should try to measure those, since he describes tangible examples.

Update: Burke says eliminating hits eliminates concussions, but then no one will watch. I agree. Women’s hockey doesn’t allow hitting at the college level, and it’s boring.

Update: Millbury notes that rule changes that increase speed are leading to more concussions.

Update: They’re asked about replacement player analysis, but I don’t think they understood the question (at least in a baseball sense) .

Update: Schuckers understood the question, and says the analysis is developing.

Update: Burke finishes with this criticism of Moneyball, that if you’re just going to be good, you’re going to get your ass kicked.

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