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Baseball Musings
October 20, 2004
Pedro In

Just saw Pedro walking in from the bullpen, and he's listed in the box score. I don't like this move at all. Yes, Pedro is the best pitcher on the team, but he has to be a bit fatigued. Don't you want to have him in top form for the 1st game of the World Series? Even if Lowe gets in trouble, you have plenty of time to get someone warm.

If this backfires, Francona will find himself in Grady Little's company.

Update: Matsui rips a double off Pedro. The "Who's your daddy?"chants are back. The crowd is back into it. I don't like this at all.

Update: Bernie Williams doubles to deep center! It's 8-2. The Sox better get Pedro out of there now.

Update: Posada grounds out to Man-cave-ich, moving Bernie to third. Pedro coming in has electrified this crowd. Lofton lines the first pitch back up the middle for a hit and another run. It's 8-3. And here comes Olerud!

Update: Lofton steals second. It's still too risky down five runs.

Update: Olerud strikes out on a fast ball just off the plate. Here's Miguel Cairo's chance to be a hero.

Update: Cairo gets good wood on the ball, but flies out into the right field corner to Nixon. But Pedro got the crowd back into it, and a team that couldn't hit Lowe hit Pedro hard. Stay tuned.


Posted by David Pinto at 11:00 PM | League Championship Series | TrackBack (0)
Comments

Are the fans giving him a lot of sh*t again?

Posted by: Wm at October 20, 2004 11:01 PM

This is one of the stupidest - if not the stupidest - managerial decisions I have ever seen.

Posted by: paul at October 20, 2004 11:03 PM

I am not happy with pulling Lowe in favor of Pedro. Lowe is doing so well. This makes no sense. This is not the Pedro of yore....I am cringing on this one....

Steph (who is now going to go hide under the bed)

Posted by: Stephanie Kesler at October 20, 2004 11:03 PM

This decision is baffling not because I think Pedro will blow it - the lead I think is safe - but because there is this little matter of a World Series that needs playing. Why would you put your game one starter in the game now and throw off the rotation?

Posted by: paul at October 20, 2004 11:05 PM

Wow. It's looking like a bad decision already.

Posted by: Mike at October 20, 2004 11:06 PM

This move will be universally panned. Even if he would have struck out three batters on nine pitches. Just stupid.

Posted by: Bill k at October 20, 2004 11:07 PM

If there's anything that's dogged Pedro all year it's first-inning troubles. This is his first inning.

Posted by: Mike at October 20, 2004 11:07 PM

You must win THIS game first before worrying about rotation issues in the World Series. You get two days off before Saturday night's opener. This move makes absolutely no sense to me.

Posted by: Double B at October 20, 2004 11:08 PM

Well, for what it's worth, it will probably be one inning only.

Posted by: Mike at October 20, 2004 11:08 PM

Timlin in the 8th.
Foulk in the 9th.

Timlin in the 8th.
Foulk in the 9th.

Timlin in the 8th.
Foulk in the 9th.

Posted by: Mike at October 20, 2004 11:10 PM

Guys, I'm DYIN' here!!!!!!!!!

I don't think I can stand it if history repeats itself!!!!!

Posted by: Stephanie Kesler at October 20, 2004 11:12 PM

I will tell you one thing though, watching Pedro pitch like he did to Olerud, and Cairo so far, is always incredibly fun.

Posted by: Bill k at October 20, 2004 11:12 PM

The only reason I can think of for this is if Pedro asked in: because, as the announcers have speculated, he wanted some actual gamework to get ready for Sunday, or because he wanted to pitch in Yankee Stadium to show up the fans. Not saying either is a good reason, just trying to figure out why he is in there.

Posted by: paul at October 20, 2004 11:12 PM

Well, now the Boston press will have something to complain about.

Posted by: Joe at October 20, 2004 11:13 PM

Joe, they complain. It doesn't matter whether anything happened worthy of complaint.

Posted by: Mike at October 20, 2004 11:14 PM

To defend Francona (not that I agree with the move), Lowe is pitching on 2 days rest and is subject to tremendous meltdowns, where he looks like he's pitching well then just falls apart. Pedro needs to get his throwing in anyways, better to have him start an inning. Leskanic and Myers could have combined just as easily to give up two runs.

Timlin will be in to pitch to the heart of the order, with Myers and Embree to back him up.

Posted by: Sam at October 20, 2004 11:14 PM

I didn't want him to start Game 1 anyways...

Posted by: Eli at October 20, 2004 11:15 PM

This is a bafflingly dumb decision - and yes, I say that with the seventh over, only two runs in - but you have a choice of:

A) keeping a dominant starter in (low pitch count so far), keeping the crowd quiet (WHO'S YOUR DADDY?), keeping Pedro Martinez available for Game 1 of the WS, saving your bullpen until you need it, and keeping the *threat* of Pedro Martinez in your back pocket;

*OR*

B) taking out a starter in a series that's been a war of bullpen attrition (five games, five days - a starter going six as effectively as Lowe is infinitely valuable here), letting the crowd back in, letting the Yankees see a new pitcher ("Anyone but Lowe!," they must be thinking), preventing Pedro from pitching WS Game 1, digging into your bullpen *AGAIN*, and exposing Pedro as mortal.

I hope it works out for the Sox, but it just seems like a really bad idea on a number of levels, any of which would be sufficient to make a responsible manager think twice.

Posted by: Chris at October 20, 2004 11:18 PM

I'm not sure they can realistically count on Schilling for Game 1.

Jeez. It's amazing we're even talking about Game 1. There are two more Yankee At-Bats.

Posted by: Mike at October 20, 2004 11:18 PM

I'd have put Pedro in for inning 9 if any at all; I figure this is Francona's way of giving Pedro some payback time for last year, but, that would have made more sense if he finished them off. The other agenda might be that Terry wants to honor Pedro (Pedro must have asked for this) so that the negotiations are a little easier during the off-season when Pedro is a free agent.

But I think it's stupid baseball. Never let your foot off the Yanx throats!

Retribe

Posted by: Retribe at October 20, 2004 11:19 PM

Lowe's going on two days' rest. I'd kind of forgotten about that...

Still, why not let Lowe into the seventh - a short leash, perhaps one baserunner or three batters - then the short relievers as necessary?

Posted by: Chris at October 20, 2004 11:20 PM

I think Bill Simmons is right. Pedro's gonna rip his jersey off after he closes the game out in the 9th and reveal a shirt that says, "Who's your Daddy now?"

The Red Sox are really getting ahead themselves here. Just take the win. You don't need to rub salt into the Yankees' wounds.

Posted by: Dan at October 20, 2004 11:23 PM

It's not just that they shouldn't rub it in to the Yankees, but that if they win, they'll also need to play a few games next week.

Posted by: Chris at October 20, 2004 11:32 PM

I don't think throwing one inning is really going to throw off the Boston rotation in the WS. It's like an enhanced bullpen session.

Posted by: Adam Villani at October 20, 2004 11:37 PM

Adam, I hope you're right. It's just hard to watch... harder to manage, I'm sure, but still hard to watch...

Posted by: Chris at October 20, 2004 11:49 PM